View Article  Apologia I 23-29

Justin continues to argue that Christians should not be persecuted for what they believe, carrying the argument into the pagans’ camp by observing that various people worship “mice and cats and crocodiles,” and tells the Emperor, “you very well know that the same animals are with some esteemed gods, with others wild beasts, and with others sacrificial victims.”  Then he criticized Simon the Samaritan, who a century ago was considered a god by the Samaritans and had a statute built to him in Rome – “to Simon the Holy God” – and Marcion of Pontus, who is accused of teaching his disciples “to believe in some god greater than the Creator.”  Simon is probably the same Simon mentioned in Acts 8:9-24, although the story in Acts doesn’t seem consistent with Justin’s version, and Marcion is certainly the heretic who argued that the Yahweh of the Hebrew Bible and the God of the Christians were not the same god, and further than the only true Scripture was Luke-Acts and 10 epistles.  Considering that Justin had just quoted half of the Sermon on the Mount, and what he quoted had very little overlap with Luke’s Sermon on the Plain, it’s not surprising he considered Marcion to be aided by “the devils.” 

 

Justin then argues against the practice of exposing children, which surprised us; it’s not something we’ve attributed to the Romans.  He thinks abandoned children are mostly picked up and raised as prostitutes, rather than being left to die.  In this section, he makes reference to “Felix the governor in Alexandria,” either now or a short time ago.  Felix was named as prefect in a surviving Roman document as of 151, which goes a long way toward dating the First Apology.  

View Article  Apologia 16-22

 Justin Martyr, First Apology, Ch. 16-22

 

In Chapter 16 and 17 Justin continued to quote scripture, first from the Sermon on the Mount (as in Chapter 15) and then from elsewhere in Matthew and also Mark and Luke, including one or two sentences that are not in the Bible, which last has been important to some commentators.  The quotations are intended to explain why Christians behave as they do; Justin seems to believe that the behavior of Christians is more important than doctrine in persuading non-Christians to convert.  So far, so good.  Then he switches to comparing Christianity to other religions, arguing that every miracle attributed to Christ or God can be found in the Roman state religion, often attributed to Jupiter.  Justin’s basic argument is that Christians should not be persecuted for what they believe, but should be held responsible for what they do – what Christians believe isn’t unique to them.  But at the same time he doesn’t think much of the behavior of the gods (especially Jupiter, who was the chief Roman god and was not celebrated for monogamy), and he seems rather scornful of the evidence that emperors are resurrected, and rise to heaven from their funeral pyre.  His attitude and language can hardly have appealed to Antoninus Pius, who forced a reluctant Senate to deify his predecessor.

-- John Weicher

View Article  Apologia 7-15

Justin Martyr, First Apology, Ch. 7-15    led by John Weicher

 

Justin continued his argument that Christians should not be punished simply because they were Christians, broadening it to talk about what Christians believe and how they behave.  In Ch. 15 he begins to tell the emperors “What Christ Taught,” quoting liberally from The Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5), specifically the latter part.  This is written around 150 A.D., before there was agreement as to what constituted the New Testament.  He quotes quite a bit more, from other books of the Bible, as the Apology continues.  This is some of the earliest evidence of what Christians were reading and hearing. 

View Article  Justin Martyr Apologia I Chs 1-6

Sue Laden and Harold Shanks were apparently still in Alexandria, pursuing the Morton Smith forgery issue.

We looked at the correspondance between Pliny the Younger and the Emperor Tarjan on the subject of arresting Christians. They were in agreement that Christians shouls be arrested, interrogated, and, if they would not recant, be sent to Rome if they were Roman citizens, or simply executed if they were not. However, anonymous denunciations were to be ignored.

The letters mention no specific charge -- to be a Christian seemed to be an offense in itself.

This was the issue taken up by Justin Martyr in the first of his apologia. Christians should only be punished if they were "evil-doers", not merely becaiuse they were Christians. To be a Christian should be seen as an indication of excellence. As to whether they were atheists, they did indeed worship no gods but one.

 

View Article  Secret Gospel of Mark

"The Secret Gospel of Mark"

 

The Secret Gospel of Mark continues to be in the news, with the imminent departure of Sue Laden and Herschel Shanks to Egypt to consult with handwriting experts about the possibility that Prof. Morton Smith forged the letter from Clement of Alexandria that quotes from, and denounces the "Secret Gospel of Mark".

 

Morton Smith claimed the have discovered the letter in the binding of a book while he was cataloging documents at the monastery of Mar Sabah.  The letter, which has been described as plausible by experts on Clement, accuses the Carpocratians of having added spurious material toe the Secret Gospel.  The letter in fact talks of an original gospel by Mark, while in Rome with Peter, and states that Mark then traveled to Alexandria to produce an expanded version, and then a "secret version" of the gospel.  Clement cites parts of the Carpocratian version, which is our only source for this material.

 

The idea that gospels were produced by compilation is confirmed by scripture, particularly the opening of Luke's gospel. Evangelicals such as F.F. Bruce follow Clement’s view that the original gospel was subject to amendment by various parties . It is, of course, commonplace that Matthew and Luke have material common with Mark, and is commonly accepted that they were based on Mark, with the addition of such sources as “Q”.   Smith reverses this position, and sees canonical Mark as the result of censorship by what became orthodox Christianity. His book “The Secret Gospel of Mark” is largely about his view that magic played a role in the early church, and this is developed further in his book “Jesus the Magician”.

 

 

View Article  Paul-Seneca 8-14

In order to get an impression of the style of the "genuine" Seneca, we read part of one of his Moral Epistles, "On Learning Wisdom in Old Age". This gives a good idea of Seneca's approach to Stoicism, with its emphasis on the behavioral aspects of philosophy. We discussed the implied belief in a natural law, and compared this with CS Lewis' treatment of the same subject in "Mere Christianity".

We read the remainder of the Paul-Seneca correspondence, much of which, oddly, is taken up by a discussion of the order of names in the address. To some of us, the very trivial nature of the discussions was a mark of authenticity, since a forger would surely give a positively Christian bias to Paul's letters, at least.

We were left with a hung jury.

 

View Article  Paul-Seneca 1-7

We noted that Seneca the Younger was a noted Roman philosopher, writer, and politician.   His date of birth is uncertain, but may have been between 4 BCE and 1CE.   His death, by judicial suicide, was in 68 CE, perhaps six years after Paul's execution.

 

The Paul-Seneca correspondence was accepted by Jerome and Augustine.  Tertullian refers to "our Seneca".  In recent times the letters have almost unanimously been declared fictitious.  However, some of the arguments put forward for falsity, such as vocabulary counts, have recently be shown to be erroneous. 

 

We looked at the first seven items in the "Paul-Seneca" correspondence.

 

We notes that the extant manuscripts are in Latin, and there was little evidence that Paul spoke or wrote Latin.  However, at one point he writes of "hearing" Seneca's letters, which may indicate the use of a translator, since Paul could and did write in Greek.

 

We had some difficulty in placing the letters in Paul’s life; he appears to be able to move freely in Rome, though the end of Acts shows him under house arrest in Rome.  Equally, if he were under arrest by imperial forces, Seneca should have had no difficulty in commanding his appearance.   However, there is a (minority) view that Paul survived his first arraignment, and that he went to Spain.  If this be so, there could have been a period when he was at liberty in Rome.

 

The reference to Poppaea, Nero’s wife, is interesting.  Poppaea is known to have been a Jewess, and the comment that she was angry at Paul’s presentation would have been in character.

View Article  Didache 9-16

Didache 9-16

The church to which the Didache is addressed appoints its own bishops and deacons. It has visits from prophets and "apostles" together with a number of "false prophets". The criteria given for detecting if a prophet is false is if he stays morte than three days. However a true prophet must be honored and when he speaks in ecstasy, his words should not be questioned.

The Didache contains the first known eucharistic prayers, unlike those in use today -- indeed, we toyed with the idea that these were Jewish prayers with some of the names changed.

The symbolism is unfamiliar; the broken bread is a symbol of the dispersed church, and the wine reflects the "vine of David".

The Didache ends, rather unexpectedly, with a dramatic description of the Last Days.

View Article  The Didache 1-8

The Didache was well known to many early authors, but disappeared from view until the late 19th century, when a full copy was found in the Constantinople library of the Patriarch of Jerusalem.

We compared it to documents such as the Presbyterian Book of Order, and the Methodist Book of Discipline, documents that specify how churches are to be run. The Didache has a global view, and appears to be an early one, before the emphasis of the power of the bishop (monoepiscopy) developed.

Though differently worded, the opening treatment of "The Two Ways" is evocative of the final section of the Epistle of Barnabas. It is interrupted by an extensive set of dominical statements.

The long list of prohibitions in "The Way of Death" include abortion and child murder, not mentioned in the New Testament. Possibly they became necessary as Christianity moved into the Graeco-Roman world where such practices were tolerated. However, slavery is assumed. The position on food offered to idols is halfway between the Jerusalem total prohibition and Paul's "don't ask" advice.

Baptism is defined by procedure, with a tolerance for for different methods of implementation: running or stored water may be used, and its temperature is irrelevant. It is seen as a ritual of entry into the church..

We discussed some forerunners to Christian baptism -- the Essene purification baths, and purification rituals in the Jerusalem temple.

 

View Article  Barnabas 18-end

November 14, 2010

 

The final section of the Epistle of Barnabas suddenly jumps into a treatment of "The Two Ways". This concept is also found in the Didache, and there is considerable discussion about their interdependence, if any.

Barnabas presents each of the two ways in terms of negatives. His lists of sins include "Corrupting Minors" and Abortion, neither of whoich is mentioned in the New Testament. Personal ownership is also condemned (cf. Acts 4:32), which might suggest a very early date of authorship.

The world is to be destroyed, together with the Evil One, in the near future.

View Article  Epistle of Barnabas 11-17

We reviewed chapters 1-10, and the corresponding quiz.

The reference to "smite the shepherd" appears to be to Zechariah, and we intend to review this, with its tale of the "wicked shepherd" in the next session.

We reviewed the concepts of exegesis and eisogesis.

We then read Chapters 11-17.

We noted that Barnabas believed that the universe would have a total life of 6000 years, and that his reference to "the eighth day" hay be the first record of Sunday observance. Like Paul, he saw the body as a "temple", though he believed it was inhabited by demons befiore conversion.

Barnabas mentions the construction of a model serpent by Moses. In II Kings, this is linked to the account of the destruction of the Nehushtan image by Hezekiah (2 Kings 18:4)

The eponymous accounts of Rebecca and Manassah were left until the next class.

 

 

View Article  Epistle of Barnabas 5-10

October 24, 2010

Epistle of Barnabas 5-10

These five chapters include an exposition of the doctrine of atonement which would not be out of place in a Pauline epistle, a Kabbalistic interpretation of an obscure verse from Genesis, and a remarkable allegorical treatment of the rejection of the Mosaic covenant by "the Jews"

We looked at the concepts of exegesis and eisogesis, and downloaded a piece from Wikipedia on the various forms of exegesis.

 

View Article  Epistle of Barnabas 1-4

The Codex Sinaiticus contains the "Epistle of Barnabas" in full, but it is not in the agreed New Testament canon, and it was included in the list of "Disputed Books" by Eusebius. However, parts of it are cited by several patristic writers.

The writer claims that God's covenant with Israel was cancelled when Moses broke the tablets on coming down from the mountain to find ther Israelites worshipping a golden calf. The writer quotes from several Old Testament writers attacking sacrifices, including Isaiah and the writer of the Psalms.

The writer uses eschatological language, believing the world to be under the control of "The Active One" -- "The Black One" -- who even has power to eject people from the kingdom of heaven.

The thrust of the witer's argument is similar to that of Amos, seeing social responsibility as more important than liturgical observance.

View Article  Epistle of Diognetus

 

 The Epistle to Diognetus

 

This epistle, known from a sole 14th century copy, is full of puzzles.

 

The addressee is unknown, though a tutor to Marcus Aurelius and a 2/3 century Procurator of Alexandria have both been suggested.

 

Equally the writer is unknown.  He uses language that is very close to the Pauline epistles, and also to the Gospel of John.

 

The document is in letter form, but is similar to Third Century apologetics.

 

The opening condemns "idol-worshippers" and Jews in simplistic terms, but the core of the document powerfully puts forward the concept of Christians as temporary sojourners who are citizens of a heavenly kingdom.  We theorised that this might not be the best way to approach a Roman official; third century persecutions fixated on the "disloyalty" of Christians.

View Article  Martyrdom of Polycarp

Leaving the schedule, we looked in detail at the Martyrium of Polycarp. We were struck by its apparent realism, and the humor of Polycarp. Many of the issues seemed to relate to what we know of events in Africa at the beginning of the Third Century, such as the martyrdom of Perpetua, which might suggest the later of the possible dates for Polycarp, though it makes it more difficult to believe that he was a pupil of John the Apostle.

View Article  Polycarp to the Philippians

Polycarp is the third of the Apostolic Fathers, with Ignatius and Clement. His death can be dated by one formula to 156 CE, and by another to 170. In the well-regarded Martyrium of Polycarp, he is quoted as having said "Eightysix years have I served my master -- should I blaspheme him now?" This indicates that, like John the Apostle, he lived to a great age, and to some extent supports the claim that he was a disciple of John, though which John is perhaps unclear.

His Letter to Philippi is a cover letter, enclosing a package of letters by Ignatius for study by the Philippians. In contrast to the sometimes harsh tone of the letters of Clement and Ignatius, he "comes across" as a friendly, tolerant personality. There are even contemporary jokes told about him, particularly his encounters with Cerinthus and Marcion, and even in the arena facing imminent death.

 

View Article  Ignatius to Polycarp

At Troas, Ignatius writes another letter to Smyrna, this time to the venerable bishop, Polycarp. Polycarp is by now a semi-legendary figure, being over 80 years old, and, according to Eusebius and Irenaus, having learned Christianity from John and other apostles.

Nevertheless Ignatius lectures Polycarp on his episcopal duties. He even goes so far as to enjoin the biushop to "Flee evil arts". Chapter 6 either shows Ignatius forgetting his audience, or is a fragment from another letter; since it enjoins the readers to "obey their bishop".

The fact that Ignatius uses the image of a ship's "pilot" is consonant with his having recently been on a ship, as is his mention of "tempests". Ignatius specifically says that he is having to restrict his letter-writing because he is being hurried to "set sail" for Neapolis, the port of Philippi. We played with the idea that some of the letters got mixed in the confusion of his departure.

View Article  Ignatius to Smyrna

Sunday, February 21, 2010

(There were no classes February 7 or 14, because of snow)

Ignatius to Smyrna

Ignatius is in Troas, and he writes back to Smyrna (present-day Izmir) which he had recently visited.

He seems concerned with Docetic tendancies at Smyrna, and essays a joke that if Christ only "seemed" to exist, than his own trials only "seemed" to be. More seriously he even expresses the hope that his opponents, once they have lost their mortal bodies, will be left as demons. Docetists, it seems, refused communion and abstained from prayer. In language reminiscent of the Epistle of James -- "I will show you my faith by what I do" -- Ignatius notes that they "have no regard for love, no care for the widow, or the orphan, or the oppressed, of the bond or the free, of the hungry or the thirsty".

He uses the term "Catholic Church" for the first time, though Protestants prefer to believe that he was referring to the Church Universal. Ignatius also states that only bishops can baptize or celebrate communion; this is not in accord with current Catholic practice, but john pointed out that he may be writing in a time when "bishop" and "priest' were synonymous.

 

View Article  Ignatius to Philadelphia

After a remarkable digression into Steady State/Big Bang theory, and cosmological mathematical modelling, we reviewed the possibilities that a) Ignatius and his guard traveled to Rome by boat with several stops (b) that he traveled by land, and (c) a combination of the above.

Philadelphia seems to be neither on the land route not the sea route, but apparently Ignatius met members of the Philadelphian church at Troas.

Ignatius told the Philadelphians to ignore Jewish law

We compared this with -- :

Paul says Jewish law helps you tell right from wrong, but has no saving power

James the Just, head of Jerusalem church was famous for his devotion to the law

Marcion, the famous second century heretic, denounced the "Jewish god" as evil, togther with the law.

 

Oddly, Ignatius asks the Philadephians to send a delegate to Antioch to congratulate them on the lifting of persecution. This seemed a long way to go for a courtesy visit, and we wondered whether some kind of inter-church conference was in prospect.

 

View Article  Ignatius to Rome

We looked at an excerpt from a somewhat suspect document -- the Martyrium of Ignatius. In what purports to be an transcript of Ignatius' interview with the Emperor Trajan in Antioch, Ignatius offends Trajan by referring to his gods as "demons" is condemned to death, and sent off to face the lions in the Coliseum in Rome. At least one commentator assumes that Ignatius made most of the journey by sea, and this might explain why time was found on the journey for his many meetings with church officials, in spite of the unfriendly nature of his guards. However, the existence of the imperial edict would be difficult to contravene, even when news arrived from Antioch that persecution had ceased. The only place where effective action could be taken on Ignatius' behalf would be in Rome itself, and it appears from his letter that this is exactly what happened, as his friends rallied to his defence. Ignatius, however, is determined on a course of martyrdom, and begs his friends not to defend him.

Catholics quote Ignatius' Letter to Rome as the earliest document from a non-Roman claiming overall authority for the Roman church; however we found it difficult to draw this from the text, either from the Greek, or from a Catholic-approved translation.

View Article  Ignatius to the Trallians

Tralles is a small town on the highway into Ephesus. Confusingly, it has had several names -- in Roman times it was renamed Caesarea, and under Turkish government became Aydin, which is its current name.

It is not clear that Ignatius actually visited the church of Tralles, but he did meet their Bishop, Polybius, in Smyrna. Polybius seems to have told him about unorthodox ideas that were current in Tralles.

The first is mentioned in Chapter 5, and seems to imply some kind of Gnosticism, including esoteric information about angels and heavenly principalities. Ignatius rather charmingly says that he is too young in the faith to have any knowledge of such ideas, but counsels against pursuing them.

He is more forceful in countering a form of Docetism, which believed that Jesus was pure spirit, and any observation of his body, and particularly of his suffering and death, was illusory. Ignatius drily observes that if Jesus only "seemed to exist" then perhaps the Docetists only "seemed to exist" and perhaps he and his suffering were only illusions.........

As an aside, why was Ignatius still travelling to Rome for execution, when persecution in Syria appeared to have ceased? However, those in the group with first-hand experience of the ways of bureaucracies had little difficulty with the thought that once the mechanism of sending him to Rome was under way, it would be difficult -- and perhaps nobody's responsibility -- to reverse.

 

View Article  Ignatius to Magnesia

Magnesia is a small town a few miles from Ephesus.

It has given its name to the magical rocks that could either attract or repel each other -- "magnets".

The river has also given its name to the loops formed in the lower course of a river -- the River Meander.

A problem at Magnesia was that the bishop was young and inexperienced; some members of the church had taken to ignoring him and holding meetings independently. As might be expected, this was denounced by Ignatius, who, he thinks, should see the bishop as one standing in the place of God.

An odd slip of the pen has Jesus being _born_ under the governemnt of Pontius Pilate; even taking the view that the Lukan nativity story implies his birth in 6 CE, the governor then would be Coponius, some thirty years before Pilate.

Verse 9:1 is sometimes quoted as the first evidence for Christians observing Sunday rather than the Sabbath, but this turns on a point of translation (www.cogwriter.com/ignatius.htm)

View Article  Ignatius to Ephesus

We started 2010 well back on our schedule. We had not completed the quiz on December 13, the December 20 class was canceled by snow, and Dec 27 had never been scheduled.

A review of the final quiz on Clement's letter to Corinth reminded us of Clement's emphasis on obedience in the early church. Clement's letter (though the second, possibly forged, letter) has always been popular with the church, and is contained in many collections of early writings, though not in the definitive Canon of the New Testament prepared by the Council of Carthage in 397. We noted Clement, like Paul, described secular powers as having derivbed from God; we wondered whether someone writing after the state-run persecutions would write this way, and discussed whether this implied that the letter is earlier than usually accepted, or whether the persecutions had less impact than we assume. Clement's reference to his messengers having grown old in the faith may possibly suggest a later date.

We opened the series of Ignatius' letters with his letter to Ephesus. His letters appear to have been written during his journey from Antioch to Rome, under armed guard, to face execution in the Colesseum. It is striking in these letters how much he seems to be looking forward to his execution and to gaining the status of martyr.

Ignatius' imagery is often unexpected; in this letter he compares the Holy Spirit to a rope, and the Eucharist as medicine -- not current images. He compares the ideal state of the church to that of a choir.

The letter to Ephesus contains the evocative account of the nativity in Chapter 51. We reviewed the accounts of the nativity in Matthew and Luke, and discussed their differences, together with the non-evangelical view that Matthew was inventing, or at least selecting, stories to fit existing prophecies -- the ex eventu approach. With its emphasis on the cosmological significance of the incarnation, this ection is also reminiscent of the kenotic passage in Philippians 2.

 

 

 

View Article  Clement to Corinth 59-end

We spent some time looking at the use that Clement makes of the Old Testament. His repertoire seems wider than Paul's, though he shares Paul's propensity for merging different excerpts together to make a new quotation! His (unattributed) quotes from the gospels are interesting, and we toyed with the idea that his excerpts may predate the redaction of the gospels themselves.

Chapter 59 starts with some of his usual threats, but segues into what may be an early Christian hymn.

We`were struck by Clement's description of God as the "prime cause of all animals", and compared it with Robinson's use of Tillich's phrase "the ground of our being".

Clement mentions the messengers who are carrying the letter to Corinth. They have patrician names, and it has been suggested that they were members of the imperial court, and Clement himself may have been an office-holder.

We reviewed the evidence for Clement having actual authority over the Corinthian church (Catholics, of course, accept him as the fourth Pope). We does use very direct language, but early in the letter says that the Corinthians had wishes to "consult" him. Although he enjoins them to obey the presbyters, he makes no such demand that they should obey him.

 

View Article  Clement to Corinth 45-59

We looked at the contrast with our usual view that church officers should be replaced from to time with Clement's position that "presbyters" were appointed for life, and were owed total obedience by church members. Clement characterises opposition to the presbyters as "sedition" and quotes violent threats from the Wisdom literature in Proverbs. Catholics quote this material as establishing the Doctrine of Apostolic Succession.

We glanced at Clement's use of the doctrines of the Elect.

We were impressed by the amount of literature that Clement apparently had at his disposal -- I Corinthians, Romans, Ephesians, and Romans. One commentator said that Clement appeared to have access to all NT scriptural sources other than the Johannine tradition.

We puzzled over his use of "King Sacrifice" material, and wondered about his sources; John suggested that Clement might know Euripedes' play "Alcestis".

 

View Article  I Clement 33-44

Clement refers to sacrifices being made by the high priest in Jerusalem. This is unequivocally in the present tense; yet it is known that temple sacrifices ceased, once and for all, when the Roman occupied the Temple in 70CE. On the face of it, then it would appear that I Clement was written before 70 CE, some 25 years earlier than the usual date assumed for Clement's installation as Bishop of Rome.

We discussed some possibilities:

That there is a scribal error, and that the original is in a different tense

That Clement is quoting from some earlier document.

That sacrifices were made after 70 AD.

Dr. Isobel Combes suspects that we are overstating the issue:

 

.... as I understand it, the conventional view dates Clement to around 95 AD. It may be simpler than you think -- he is still one of those who sees Christianity merely as a continuation of Judaism and Christians as "true Israelites" still following in the traditions of priests and synagogues. It will have taken some time, if ever, for it to sink in for some people that it was really all over.

If the Houses of Parliament and St Paul's were razed to the ground and invading fundamentalists took over London, would we all shrug and say "ah well, the end of democracy and the Church of England" .... or would we still for years afterwards live in hope that the situation would eventually be sorted out and we would go back to the way things were?

Or, living elsewhere, occasionally even forget that it had happened and be caught out occasionally mentioning it as if it were still there?

View Article  I Clement 23-32

We reviewed the known history of the letter known as I Clement, and discussed why it has never been thought be pseudonymous.

We enjoyed Clement's description of the Phoenix cycle, and wondered where he got his information.

We puzzled over Clement's references to the resurrection and his insistence on this as a future event. Apparently, there was a section of the Christian Church that believed that the general resurrection had already occured. Colossians 2:12 can be read this way, but Paul appears to oppose that view in Romans 6:4-5 .

Clement quotes Deuteronomy 32: 8-9 as "When the Most High divided the nations....... he fixed the bounds of the nations according to the number of the angels of God." NRSV translates this as "he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the gods" -- which suggests a quixotic image -- "I'll take Israel, you, Baal, take Syria; Artemis, you can have Greece; Odin, take Germany........"

View Article  I Clement 12-23

Chapters 12-23 start with a discussion of humility citing Christ, the prophets, and David as examples. They segue into a plea for peace, citing the order and harmony of the universe.

We discussed the power relationship between the churches of Rome and Corinth, coming down between the view of the primacy of Rome and total independence, thinking more in terms of the older, more experienced church giving advice. Clement appears to have considerable resources at his disposal, as evinced by his fluent use of the Old Testament and quotations from Jesus, not quite in their canonical form. We posited the existence of a large "library" of texts at Rome.

View Article  Clement to Corinth 1-12

Clement to Corinth 1-12

There is argument as to whether Clement was a Pope, with authority over other churches, or just a leader of a particular church, asked to give an opinion on a issue at another.

He makes fluent use of Old and New Testaments, although the canon of scripture was not be established for a few hundred years.

There are interesting references to Paul and Peter, including a reference to Paul as having reached "the limits of the West" Since there is no reference to this in Acts, it may mean that Paul survived his first trial in Rome, and went on to visit Spain.

Clement's letter refers, apparently, to the expulsion of presbyters from the church at Corinth. It is unclear what the point was at issue. Clement takes the view that churchmembers should be loyal to their presbyters, even "approaching them on bended knee". Whatever view one takes of the extent of the authority vested in Clement, it does seem that the church is well on it way to having an authoritative clergy.

(We also looked at CS Lewis' poem "A Cliche Escapes From Its Cage" in reference to last week's item in the Washington Post about paganism.)

View Article  Revelation and Laodicea

Laodicea was a prosperous city, partly because of its successful trade in black wool, and partly from its geographical location, being on the intersection of two great highways, one from Smyrna and Ephesus, heading East through Syria to Persia, and the other running from the coast at Attalia to Pergamum. The location is not a natural one, and, in particular, the supply of water always involved problems. There was the hot spa water from Hieropolis, with its high sulfur content, and cold clear water from Colossae. Both were supplied to Laodicea, and one suspects that there was domestic cross-contamination, vividly described by John as water one would "spit out of his mouth". John uses this image to accuse Laodicea of being "neither hot nor cold".

Laodicea is the seventh and last of the churches addressed directly in Revelation.

Revelation then becomes apocalyptic, and we looked at the twelve ways of interpreting such literature listed by Wikipedia.

We shall continue with early Christian letters by reading correspondance from Clement of Rome to the church in Corinth.